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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Sep 2, 2011 3:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: europe 72 box set survey

Is the box set as good as expected, better than expected, or not as good as expected!?

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Sep 2, 2011 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

I don't know about anybody else, but these shows (and the mixes) are kicking my ass. I'm on Disc 2 of the 4/16/72 Aarhus gig (proceeding chronologically through the tour) and it sounds great. (This is one I haven't heard before and the "Good Lovin'" has to be the dirtiest ever. Pigpen moans about "cherry pie" (or does he say "jelly pie"!?) and later instructs us that "you'll know by how it smells when to shift gears." Hilarious, great, and somehow revolting all at once). These are the little details, I think, that I'll continue to visit this tour for.

Overall, I wish Keith were louder at times, but then again, he seems loud during crescendos and other bits. I do wish some of the talk in-between numbers was louder. Jerry sounds fucking perfect. Actually everything but the keys (Pig and Keith) sounds damn near perfect to my ears.

I've heard that some people are bemoaning the lack of "ephemera" but who needs junk when the music is all there? The packaging and design do well to emphasize the physical shows and the hardbound book is gorgeous: full of beautiful photos and some decent writing (Henry Kaiser's piece being the most interesting to me so far).

Quibbles: the paper slipcases suck and the clasp on my case seems cheap--I fear for its survival. I did find that if you stand the box up with the handle on top, the lid, clasp and all open much easier (with zero stress on those flimsy-looking hinges) and the books stay in their little pocket nice and snug.

I think it's a great set, one that is personally re-awakening me to the magnitude of this incredible band.

:):):)

The short answer for me: better than expected.

This post was modified by ice9freak on 2011-09-02 23:36:53

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 2, 2011 6:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Packaging sleeves STILL suck?!?

Happily ignorant.

Unhappy to hear of the ongoing issue with the FRICKIN sleeves or whatever those CD damaging devices are termed. Lou's solution is frickin funny, if useful, which is DAMN sad!

How can anyone that makes this stuff NOT know that it's problematic?

And, it's not the money; put them in PAPER, just don't put them in something that's hard to get CDs out of...just shouldn't have to be explained, ya know?

It's not rocket science...

But, glad to read of so many being so happy while so few are so very unhappy.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 3, 2011 2:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Packaging sleeves STILL suck?!?

Funny? Funny?? It's FRICKIN' brilliant!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 3, 2011 3:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Packaging sleeves STILL suck?!?

I don't doubt it--I loved the iterative listing of step by step instructions. I do, like UJ (I think?), cringe at the notion of even plastic coated metal being inserted into a dark slit of a hole and then twisted unseen by human eyes, when such valuable cargo resides therein...

Eeeeuuuuuewww. I should delete that as it reads like a 1920s guide to abortion, but what the hay...it's a slow day what with all the Euro Trash dominating the board (only from a nonparticipant's perspective, of course), so perhaps I'll leave it alone for "effect"...?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 2, 2011 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

Rich, I really need more time to listen to the new material in ernest. Between the hurricane and new Parrot Head girlfriend, I have only listened to about half of the shows, and none in their entirety.

My initial thoughts are that the sound quality is fantastic. Although, at times I have been somewhat disapointed that the levels of both keyboards are mixed rather low.

In particular, the sound quality of the Paris shows is extraordinary.

Conversely, I find much of the high-intensity vibe of the Radio Luxembourg show was lost in remastering. I think the FM/SBD.unknown.10353.sbeok.shnf is superior to the vault release.

I'll post more of my observations at a later date, after I spend some more time listening...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2011 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

The Yellow Dog story on the second night in London is still not funny...

But damn, I'm only on the first set of the second day and am pretty blown away by how good it/they sound... Going to listen to each note in chronological order.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 2, 2011 4:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

For me, the packaging is better than expected, the coffee table book not quite as good as expected, and the sound quality so far is about as good as expected. I love that Phil is strong but not quite overpowering in the mixes. And just in what I've listened to so far, I've been impressed by how solid his playing is in the short songs, which I'd mostly neglected in my listening of E72 sbds.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Sep 2, 2011 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

Give us a few weeks to listen... first impression from two discs - mix is great overall, the playing is of the quality you'd expect from this run. I'm happy.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 2, 2011 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

My mind's reeling at the thought that our resident Vonnegut enthusiast is already halfway through Aarhuus, listening in chronological order.

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Sep 2, 2011 7:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: europe 72 box set survey

My box arrived on Tuesday--I've been listening to 4 or 5 discs a day and I believe this particular prescription wards off sickness, depression, malaise, and general unhappiness.

As it used to read on the Dicks Picks: "Warning: Initial studies have concluded that repeated exposure to Grateful Dead music may be habit forming, and can result in a permanent change to the psyche of the listener. While no one has ever successfully reversed this condition, it can sometimes be controlled by repeated exposure to Grateful Dead music."